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Bush Lobbies Asian Allies on North Korea
By Steve Holland and David Morgan
SANTIAGO (Reuters) - President Bush sought help on Saturday from Chinese President Hu Jintao and other key allies at an Asia-Pacific summit on getting North Korea to return to stalled talks over its nuclear weapons program.
"Both sides expressed the hope that the issue can resolved peacefully through dialogue," Hu told reporters after he and Bush met for 45 minutes on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum.
North Korea refused to attend a scheduled meeting in September and Bush's goal, with his re-election behind him, is to get a new round of six-party talks started by the end of the year or early next year. Senior Bush administration officials have a sense of urgency about North Korea, which is estimated to have eight nuclear weapons -- up from one or two when Bush took office.
North Korea was playing a dominant role at the summit for the third year in a row. Bush hopes to persuade his fellow heads of state to renew pressure on North Korea and respond to a proposal Washington put forward at talks in June to get Pyongyang to verifiably dismantle its nuclear weapons program.
"I told the president that I look forward to working with him over the next four years to continue our close work on keeping peace -- peace in the Korean Peninsula, peace throughout the Pacific region and to spread peace throughout the world," Bush said.
Bush was also meeting Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun and Russia's Vladimir Putin, with North Korea at the top of the agenda.
"It is very important for the leader of North Korea to understand that the six-party talks will be the framework in which we continue to discuss the mutual goal we all have, which is to rid the Korean Peninsula of nuclear weapons," Bush said with Koizumi.
One U.S. official dismissed suggestions of a split among the parties over concessions to North Korea.
Bush's presence in the Chilean capital for the summit has triggered outrage. Tens of thousands of people streamed through central Santiago on Friday carrying banners and chanting slogans against the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq, including "Fascist Bush is a terrorist."
Bush said he and Hu also talked about U.S.-Chinese economic relations, "about how we'll work over the next four years to continue to spread prosperity to both our people and make sure the relationship is fair and equitable on both sides."
He did not elaborate, but the United States has been pressing China to adopt a more flexible exchange rate as a way to boost exports and help U.S. manufacturers.
Hu expressed his appreciation for Bush's adherence to a one-China policy and his opposition to Taiwanese independence.
He said the two leaders expressed satisfaction over positive progress made in a constructive relationship in recent years.
"We are also committed to stronger coordination and to cooperation between the two countries on economic matters and terrorism as well as other important international issues," Hu said.
The APEC summit is traditionally about how to boost member economies and free trade but increasingly is turning to security issues as well.
Six parties -- North and South Korea, the United States, China, Japan and Russia -- have met three times to discuss ending the nuclear program in the North, which Bush dubbed part of an "axis of evil" that included Iran and pre-war Iraq.
U.S. negotiators face divisions among parties to the talks who have pressured Washington to make more concessions to North Korea, on top of its June proposal to allow South Korea and Japan to provide the North with aid.
But a senior Bush administration official dismissed suggestions of a split. "There's a lot of common cause," he said. "The general scope of how you do this, everyone agrees on."
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Kong Quan, speaking after Hu's meeting with South Korea's Roh on Friday, said the two Asian leaders wanted six-party talks to resume as soon as possible.
Asked if he thought Bush was pushing North Korea too hard, Kong told a news conference, "I believe you can never push too hard if it is for a good purpose."
I am hoping things go well, don't get me wrong, BUT...he's such an ignorant, arrogant, uncooth nimrod...
yayzoo krispies this scares me a lot.
Like, more than I can explain rationally.
I mean, I think it's a rational fear, seeing as I fucking called him going off to do this, but I am sure someone on his "team" can rationalize his decision to do this.
I understand the supposed "intent,"
I just fear what the underlying intent will lead to, you know?
~{8(
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Bush Lobbies Asian Allies on North Korea
By Steve Holland and David Morgan
SANTIAGO (Reuters) - President Bush sought help on Saturday from Chinese President Hu Jintao and other key allies at an Asia-Pacific summit on getting North Korea to return to stalled talks over its nuclear weapons program.
"Both sides expressed the hope that the issue can resolved peacefully through dialogue," Hu told reporters after he and Bush met for 45 minutes on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum.
North Korea refused to attend a scheduled meeting in September and Bush's goal, with his re-election behind him, is to get a new round of six-party talks started by the end of the year or early next year. Senior Bush administration officials have a sense of urgency about North Korea, which is estimated to have eight nuclear weapons -- up from one or two when Bush took office.
North Korea was playing a dominant role at the summit for the third year in a row. Bush hopes to persuade his fellow heads of state to renew pressure on North Korea and respond to a proposal Washington put forward at talks in June to get Pyongyang to verifiably dismantle its nuclear weapons program.
"I told the president that I look forward to working with him over the next four years to continue our close work on keeping peace -- peace in the Korean Peninsula, peace throughout the Pacific region and to spread peace throughout the world," Bush said.
Bush was also meeting Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun and Russia's Vladimir Putin, with North Korea at the top of the agenda.
"It is very important for the leader of North Korea to understand that the six-party talks will be the framework in which we continue to discuss the mutual goal we all have, which is to rid the Korean Peninsula of nuclear weapons," Bush said with Koizumi.
One U.S. official dismissed suggestions of a split among the parties over concessions to North Korea.
Bush's presence in the Chilean capital for the summit has triggered outrage. Tens of thousands of people streamed through central Santiago on Friday carrying banners and chanting slogans against the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq, including "Fascist Bush is a terrorist."
Bush said he and Hu also talked about U.S.-Chinese economic relations, "about how we'll work over the next four years to continue to spread prosperity to both our people and make sure the relationship is fair and equitable on both sides."
He did not elaborate, but the United States has been pressing China to adopt a more flexible exchange rate as a way to boost exports and help U.S. manufacturers.
Hu expressed his appreciation for Bush's adherence to a one-China policy and his opposition to Taiwanese independence.
He said the two leaders expressed satisfaction over positive progress made in a constructive relationship in recent years.
"We are also committed to stronger coordination and to cooperation between the two countries on economic matters and terrorism as well as other important international issues," Hu said.
The APEC summit is traditionally about how to boost member economies and free trade but increasingly is turning to security issues as well.
Six parties -- North and South Korea, the United States, China, Japan and Russia -- have met three times to discuss ending the nuclear program in the North, which Bush dubbed part of an "axis of evil" that included Iran and pre-war Iraq.
U.S. negotiators face divisions among parties to the talks who have pressured Washington to make more concessions to North Korea, on top of its June proposal to allow South Korea and Japan to provide the North with aid.
But a senior Bush administration official dismissed suggestions of a split. "There's a lot of common cause," he said. "The general scope of how you do this, everyone agrees on."
Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Kong Quan, speaking after Hu's meeting with South Korea's Roh on Friday, said the two Asian leaders wanted six-party talks to resume as soon as possible.
Asked if he thought Bush was pushing North Korea too hard, Kong told a news conference, "I believe you can never push too hard if it is for a good purpose."
I am hoping things go well, don't get me wrong, BUT...he's such an ignorant, arrogant, uncooth nimrod...
yayzoo krispies this scares me a lot.
Like, more than I can explain rationally.
I mean, I think it's a rational fear, seeing as I fucking called him going off to do this, but I am sure someone on his "team" can rationalize his decision to do this.
I understand the supposed "intent,"
I just fear what the underlying intent will lead to, you know?
~{8(
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Date: 2004-11-20 02:59 pm (UTC)The Bush concept of World Peace is a terrifying thing. Kinda like the plague.
~shudder~
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Date: 2004-11-22 12:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-11-20 03:34 pm (UTC)First off, his Neocon friends don't have quite the obsession with invading it that they did Iraq. Additionally, there's little there of value to his "business friends", especially oil, like there is in Iraq. And none of the Neocons are under the same illusions of an easy invasion as they were with Iraq.
The threat of actual nuclear weapons is one thing keeping them back, but even without them, the Administration fears a conventional attack by North Korean forces. We know for a fact that they have enough artillery pointed at South Korea that the civilian casualty figures would be above 10,000 within the first 15 minutes of an attack, something that not even Bush could just shrug off like he has the mismanagement of Iraq.
No, the President has every reason to use negotiations here as the previous administrations have.